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Let’s solve this step by step.

This is a Nonogram (also called Picross or Griddlers). The goal is to fill in some cells black (or colored) so that the numbers on the top and left tell you how many consecutive filled cells are in each row or column.

For example:
- If a row says “3 1”, it means: three filled cells, then at least one empty cell, then one filled cell.
- Numbers can be separated by one or more empty cells.
- You must figure out which cells to fill based on all the clues together.

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We’ll start with rows or columns that have big numbers or few possibilities — they’re easier to solve first.

Look at the bottom-left corner of the grid. There’s a row that says:

> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

That’s eight 1s. That means there are 8 single filled cells, each separated by at least one empty cell.

But wait — let’s count how many cells are in that row. Looking at the grid, each row has 30 cells (since the top clue row has 30 numbers across).

So for a row with “1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1” (eight 1s), we need:

- 8 filled cells
- At least 7 empty cells between them (one between each pair)
→ Minimum space needed = 8 + 7 = 15 cells

But our row is 30 cells long — so plenty of room. But actually… looking again — maybe I misread.

Wait — look at the very last row on the left side:

It says:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

And above it:
1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Actually, let me reorient.

The grid is divided into two parts? No — actually, looking carefully, the image shows TWO separate Nonogram puzzles!

Top-right puzzle: smaller grid, about 17x17? Let’s check the clues.

Top puzzle clues:

Rows (left side):
Row 1: 1
Row 2: 5
Row 3: 2
Row 4: 1
Row 5: 1
Row 6: 1 1
Row 7: 1 1 1 1
Row 8: 1 5 1 1 1
Row 9: 30 ← Wait, that can’t be right for a small grid.

Actually, looking again — the top part has row clues on the left and column clues on top.

Column clues (top row):
There are 17 columns? Let’s count the numbers in the top row of clues:

From left to right:
1, 1, 1, 1 → that’s 4
Then below: 5, 1, 1, 1, 1 → still 5 numbers? No.

Actually, the top puzzle’s column clues are written vertically? No — standard Nonogram: column clues are above the grid, row clues to the left.

Looking at the top section:

The grid appears to be 17 columns wide and 9 rows high? Because the bottom row of row clues says:

“30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1”

Wait — that’s too many numbers. Actually, that line is probably the *column* clues for the bottom puzzle.

I think I made a mistake.

Let me clarify:

The image contains two separate Nonogram puzzles:

1. Top-right puzzle: Smaller grid. Row clues on the left, column clues on top.
- From the clues, it looks like 9 rows and 17 columns? Let’s verify.

Column clues (top row of numbers above the grid):
First column: 1
Second: 5
Third: 2
Fourth: 1
Fifth: 1
Sixth: 1 1
Seventh: 1 1 1 1
Eighth: 1 5 1 1 1
Ninth: 30 ← This doesn't make sense for a small grid.

Actually, looking closely — the number "30" is likely part of the bottom puzzle's column clues.

Perhaps the top puzzle is only the upper right block, and the bottom puzzle is the large left block.

Let me try a different approach.

Notice that in the bottom-left puzzle, the first row (topmost row of the left grid) has a clue: 10

That means in that row, there is a block of 10 consecutive filled cells.

Since the grid is 30 cells wide (as seen from the bottom row of column clues having 30 numbers), a block of 10 can fit in many places, but if it's the only clue, it could be anywhere — unless other constraints force its position.

But look at the second row: 1 1

Third row: 1 5 1

Fourth: 1 1 1 1

Fifth: 1 1 1 1

Sixth: 1 1 1 1

Seventh: 1 5 1

Eighth: 3 1

Ninth: 1 4 2 1

Tenth: 1 3 1 1

Eleventh: 1 1 1

Twelfth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ← eleven 1s

Thirteenth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ← same

Fourteenth: 1 1 1 6

Fifteenth: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Sixteenth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3

Seventeenth: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Eighteenth: 1 1 1

Nineteenth: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Twentieth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3

Twenty-first: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Twenty-second: 1 1 1

Twenty-third: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Twenty-fourth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Twenty-fifth: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Twenty-sixth: 1 1 1 1

Twenty-seventh: 1 1 6 3

Twenty-eighth: 1 1 1 1 1

Twenty-ninth: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3

Thirtieth: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Now, the column clues for the bottom puzzle are given at the bottom of the entire image:

"30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

That’s 30 numbers — so 30 columns.

Similarly, there are 30 rows in the bottom puzzle (from row 1 to row 30 as listed above).

So the bottom puzzle is 30x30.

The top puzzle is separate — let's focus on solving the bottom puzzle since it's larger and might be the main one, or perhaps both are to be solved.

But the user didn't specify which one to solve. However, in such images, often the larger one is the main puzzle.

Moreover, the top puzzle has a row clue "30" which would require 30 filled cells in a row — but if the grid is only 17 columns wide, that's impossible. So likely, the "30" is part of the bottom puzzle's column clues.

In fact, looking at the layout:

- The top-right grid has its own set of row and column clues.
- The bottom-left grid has its own set.
- The long string at the bottom ("30 1 2 2 ...") is the column clues for the bottom-left puzzle.
- The row clues for the bottom-left puzzle are on its left side.
- For the top-right puzzle, the row clues are on its left, and column clues on its top.

Let me solve the top-right puzzle first because it's smaller.

Top-right puzzle:

Grid size: Let's count the rows and columns.

From the row clues on the left of the top grid:

There are 9 rows (clues listed from top to bottom: 1,5,2,1,1,1 1,1 1 1 1,1 5 1 1 1,30 — wait, the last one is "30", but that can't be for a small grid.

Perhaps the "30" is not part of the top puzzle. Let's list the row clues for the top puzzle as shown:

Row 1: 1
Row 2: 5
Row 3: 2
Row 4: 1
Row 5: 1
Row 6: 1 1
Row 7: 1 1 1 1
Row 8: 1 5 1 1 1
Row 9: ? — the next line is "30 1 2 2 ..." which is likely the column clues for the bottom puzzle.

Actually, in the image, after row 8 of the top puzzle, there is a line that says "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1" — this is probably the column clues for the bottom puzzle, and it's placed below the top puzzle for space reasons.

So for the top puzzle, there are 8 rows? Let's see the column clues on top of the top grid.

Top of top grid:
First column: 1
Second: 5
Third: 2
Fourth: 1
Fifth: 1
Sixth: 1 1
Seventh: 1 1 1 1
Eighth: 1 5 1 1 1
Ninth: ? — then it stops, and the next numbers are for the bottom puzzle.

Counting the column clues for the top puzzle: there are 8 columns? Let's list them:

Col 1: 1
Col 2: 5
Col 3: 2
Col 4: 1
Col 5: 1
Col 6: 1 1
Col 7: 1 1 1 1
Col 8: 1 5 1 1 1

That's 8 columns.

Row clues for top puzzle: 8 rows? From earlier:

Row 1: 1
Row 2: 5
Row 3: 2
Row 4: 1
Row 5: 1
Row 6: 1 1
Row 7: 1 1 1 1
Row 8: 1 5 1 1 1

Yes, 8 rows and 8 columns. The "30" etc. are for the bottom puzzle.

So top puzzle is 8x8.

Let's solve the 8x8 Nonogram.

Grid: 8 rows, 8 columns.

Row clues (left to right, top to bottom):

R1: 1
R2: 5
R3: 2
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 1 1
R7: 1 1 1 1
R8: 1 5 1 1 1

Column clues (top to bottom, left to right):

C1: 1
C2: 5
C3: 2
C4: 1
C5: 1
C6: 1 1
C7: 1 1 1 1
C8: 1 5 1 1 1

Notice that the row clues and column clues are identical! R1=C1, R2=C2, etc. So the puzzle is symmetric.

Let's start with R2: 5 — that means 5 consecutive filled cells in row 2.

In an 8-cell row, a block of 5 can start at position 1,2,3, or 4.

Similarly, C2: 5 — same for column 2.

Also, R8: 1 5 1 1 1 — that's five groups: 1, then 5, then 1, then 1, then 1. Total filled cells: 1+5+1+1+1=9, but the row is only 8 cells long — impossible!

1+5+1+1+1 = 9 > 8 — contradiction.

What's wrong?

Perhaps I miscounted the row clues.

Let's look back at the image description.

In the user's message, for the top puzzle, the row clues are listed as:

After the grid, it says:

"1
5
2
1
1
1 1
1 1 1 1
1 5 1 1 1
30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

The "30" is likely the start of the bottom puzzle's column clues, so for the top puzzle, there are only 8 row clues: up to "1 5 1 1 1".

But "1 5 1 1 1" sums to 9, which is greater than 8 — impossible for an 8-cell row.

Unless the grid is larger.

Perhaps the top puzzle has more rows.

Let's count the number of row clue lines for the top puzzle.

In the text, before "30", there are 9 lines of row clues for the top puzzle:

1. 1
2. 5
3. 2
4. 1
5. 1
6. 1 1
7. 1 1 1 1
8. 1 5 1 1 1
9. ? — the ninth line is "30", but that can't be.

Perhaps the ninth row clue is missing, or "30" is not a row clue.

Another possibility: the top puzzle is 9 rows high, and the ninth row clue is "30", but that would require 30 filled cells in a row, which is impossible if the grid is only 8 or 17 columns wide.

Let's count the column clues for the top puzzle.

In the top row of the top grid, the clues are:

First cell: 1
Second: 5
Third: 2
Fourth: 1
Fifth: 1
Sixth: 1 1
Seventh: 1 1 1 1
Eighth: 1 5 1 1 1
Ninth: ? — then it ends, and the next numbers are for the bottom puzzle.

So 8 column clues.

But for row 8: "1 5 1 1 1" — sum 9 > 8 — impossible.

Unless the grid is 9 columns wide.

Let's assume the top puzzle is 9x9.

Then row 8: "1 5 1 1 1" = 1+5+1+1+1 = 9, which fits perfectly in 9 cells: filled, empty, five filled, empty, filled, empty, filled, empty, filled — but that would be positions: 1,3-7,9,11,13 — but only 9 cells, so positions 1,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,13 — out of range.

In a 9-cell row, to have groups of 1,5,1,1,1, you need at least 1+1+5+1+1+1+1 = 11 cells (because between 5 groups, you need 4 separators, so 9 + 4 = 13? Let's calculate minimum length.

For k groups, you need sum of group sizes + (k-1) for the gaps.

Here, 5 groups: sizes 1,5,1,1,1 — sum = 9, gaps = 4, so minimum length = 9 + 4 = 13 cells.

But if the grid is 9 cells, it's impossible.

So my initial assumption must be wrong.

Perhaps the "1 5 1 1 1" is for a different row.

Let's look at the bottom puzzle instead, as it's larger and the clues make sense.

Bottom puzzle: 30x30 grid.

Row clues (30 rows):

As listed earlier.

Column clues (30 columns): from the bottom string: "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

Let's list them:

C1: 30
C2: 1
C3: 2
C4: 2
C5: 2
C6: 1
C7: 1
C8: 1
C9: 1
C10: 30
C11: 1
C12: 2
C13: 1
C14: 2
C15: 1
C16: 2
C17: 1
C18: 2
C19: 1
C20: 2
C21: 1
C22: 2
C23: 1
C24: 1
C25: 17
C26: 1
C27: 3
C28: 1
C29: 3
C30: 1

Now, C1: 30 — that means the entire first column is filled! Because 30 consecutive filled cells in a 30-cell column.

Similarly, C10: 30 — entire tenth column is filled.

C25: 17 — a block of 17 filled cells in column 25.

Also, for rows, look at row 12: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — eleven 1s.

Sum of group sizes = 11, number of groups = 11, so minimum length = 11 + 10 = 21 cells (since 10 gaps between 11 groups).

The row is 30 cells, so possible.

But let's start with the easy ones.

From column clues:

C1: 30 → all cells in column 1 are filled.

C10: 30 → all cells in column 10 are filled.

C25: 17 → a block of 17 filled cells in column 25. Since the column is 30 cells, the block can start from row 1 to row 14 (because 17+14-1=30? Start at row s, end at s+16, s+16 ≤ 30, so s ≤ 14).

But we may get more info from rows.

Now, look at row 1: clue "10" — a single block of 10 filled cells.

Since C1 and C10 are fully filled, in row 1, cells (1,1) and (1,10) are filled.

If row 1 has a block of 10, and it includes column 1 and column 10, then the block must be from column 1 to column 10, because 10 consecutive cells from col 1 to 10.

Is that possible? Columns 1 to 10 is 10 cells, yes.

And since C1 and C10 are filled, and if the block is from 1 to 10, then cells 1 to 10 in row 1 are filled.

Moreover, since it's a single block of 10, no other cells in row 1 are filled.

So for row 1: columns 1 to 10 are filled, columns 11 to 30 are empty.

Similarly, look at row 30: clue "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — nine 1s.

Sum = 9, groups = 9, min length = 9 + 8 = 17 cells.

But we know C1 and C10 are filled, so in row 30, cells (30,1) and (30,10) are filled.

Since there are nine separate 1s, and they must be isolated, so between them at least one empty cell.

Now, let's consider column 25: clue 17.

In row 1, we have columns 1-10 filled, so cell (1,25) is empty (since 25>10).

In row 30, cell (30,25) may or may not be filled.

But let's see if we can find where the 17-block is in column 25.

Perhaps look at rows that have large blocks.

Another easy one: row 14: clue "1 1 1 6" — groups of 1,1,1,6.

Sum = 9, groups = 4, min length = 9 + 3 = 12 cells.

But more importantly, the 6 is a large block.

Similarly, row 27: "1 1 6 3" — groups 1,1,6,3.

Sum = 11, min length = 11 + 3 = 14 cells.

But let's go back to what we know.

We have:

- Column 1: all filled
- Column 10: all filled
- Row 1: columns 1-10 filled, 11-30 empty

Now, let's look at row 2: clue "1 1" — two separate 1s.

Since C1 and C10 are filled, in row 2, cells (2,1) and (2,10) are filled.

The clue is "1 1", which means two single filled cells, not connected.

So if (2,1) and (2,10) are filled, and they are far apart, that could be the two 1s, but only if there are no other filled cells.

The clue "1 1" means exactly two filled cells, each alone, so yes, possibly (2,1) and (2,10) are the only filled cells in row 2.

Is that consistent? Yes, because they are not adjacent, so two separate groups of 1.

So for row 2: only columns 1 and 10 are filled; all others empty.

Similarly, row 3: clue "1 5 1" — groups of 1,5,1.

Sum = 7, min length = 7 + 2 = 9 cells.

Cells (3,1) and (3,10) are filled (since C1 and C10 full).

The clue has three groups: 1,5,1.

Possibly, the first 1 is at column 1, the last 1 at column 10, and the 5 in between.

But from col 1 to col 10 is 10 cells, and we need a block of 5 somewhere in between.

For example, if the 5 is from col 3 to 7, then groups: col1 (1), col3-7 (5), col10 (1) — but then between col1 and col3, there is col2 empty, good; between col7 and col10, cols8,9 empty, good.

And no other filled cells.

So possible.

Could the 5 include col10? But col10 is already used for the last 1, and the groups are separate, so the 5 cannot include col10 if the last group is a single 1 at col10.

The groups are distinct, so the 5-block must be separate from the 1 at col10.

Similarly, separate from col1.

So in row 3, filled cells: col1, then a block of 5 somewhere from col2 to col9, but not including col1 or col10, and then col10.

But col1 and col10 are filled, and the 5-block must be in between, say from col a to a+4, with a≥2, a+4≤9, so a from 2 to 5.

Also, between col1 and the 5-block, at least one empty cell, so if 5-block starts at col2, then col1 and col2 are both filled, but they would be adjacent, so it would be a group of 6, not 1 and 5.

Ah, important! If col1 and col2 are both filled, and they are adjacent, they form a single group, not two separate groups.

So for the groups to be separate, there must be at least one empty cell between them.

Therefore, in row 3, since we have groups 1,5,1, and col1 is filled (first group), then there must be an empty cell after col1, so col2 must be empty.

Similarly, before the last group at col10, there must be an empty cell, so col9 must be empty.

Then the 5-block must be from col3 to col7, for example.

Col3,4,5,6,7 — that's 5 cells.

Then col1 filled, col2 empty, col3-7 filled, col8 empty, col9 empty, col10 filled.

Groups: col1 (size 1), col3-7 (size 5), col10 (size 1) — perfect.

And no other filled cells.

So for row 3: filled cells at columns 1,3,4,5,6,7,10.

Empty elsewhere.

Similarly, we can proceed.

But this is taking time, and perhaps for the purpose of this response, since the user might expect the solution to the puzzle, but it's large, maybe I should provide the completed grid or something.

Perhaps the puzzle is designed to be solved, and the answer is a picture, but since it's text-based, maybe I need to output the filled cells.

But that would be messy.

Another thought: in many such puzzles, the solution forms a picture, but here, with the clues, perhaps it's a specific pattern.

Notice that in the column clues, C1 and C10 are 30, so full columns.

C25 is 17, which is large.

Also, in the row clues, row 1 is 10, which we solved as cols 1-10.

Row 30 is nine 1s.

Let's look at row 12: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — eleven 1s.

Since C1 and C10 are filled, in row 12, cells (12,1) and (12,10) are filled.

With eleven separate 1s, and the row is 30 cells, it's possible.

But perhaps the puzzle has a symmetry or pattern.

Maybe the "30" in C1 and C10 suggest that those columns are borders or something.

Another idea: perhaps the grid is to be filled such that the filled cells form letters or a word, but that might be overcomplicating.

For the sake of this response, since the user asked to solve the problem, and it's a Nonogram, the final answer is the completed grid, but in text, it's hard.

Perhaps I can describe the solution for the top puzzle first, as it's smaller.

Let's return to the top puzzle.

Assume the top puzzle is 8x8, and the row clue for row 8 is "1 5 1 1 1", but sum 9 > 8, so impossible.

Unless the grid is 9x9.

Let me assume the top puzzle is 9x9.

Then row clues:

R1: 1
R2: 5
R3: 2
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 1 1
R7: 1 1 1 1
R8: 1 5 1 1 1 -- sum 9, which fits in 9 cells if no gaps, but with gaps, min length 13, still >9.

1+5+1+1+1 = 9, but with 4 gaps, min 13 >9, impossible.

Perhaps the clue "1 5 1 1 1" is for a different interpretation.

Another possibility: in some Nonograms, the clues are listed, and for row 8, it might be "1,5,1,1,1" but perhaps it's "1 5" and then "1 1 1" but that's the same.

Or perhaps it's a typo, and it's "1 5 1" or something.

Let's look at the column clues for the top puzzle.

C8: 1 5 1 1 1 — same issue.

Perhaps the top puzzle is not 8x8.

Let's count the number of cells in the top grid from the image description.

In the user's message, the top grid has, for example, in row 7: "1 1 1 1" , and in the grid, it might be visible, but since I can't see, perhaps from the context.

Notice that in the bottom of the top grid, there is "30 1 2 2 ..." which is likely the column clues for the bottom puzzle, and it starts with 30, which matches C1 of bottom puzzle.

For the top puzzle, the last row clue is "1 5 1 1 1", and if we assume the grid is 10 cells wide, then min length for "1 5 1 1 1" is 1+1+5+1+1+1+1 = 11 >10, still not.

1+5+1+1+1 = 9, with 4 gaps, 13 cells needed.

So perhaps the clue is "1 5 1" for row 8, but in the text it's "1 5 1 1 1".

Let's read the user's input carefully:

"1
5
2
1
1
1 1
1 1 1 1
1 5 1 1 1
30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

Perhaps the "1 5 1 1 1" is for row 8, and the grid is 13 cells wide or something, but that doesn't match.

Another idea: perhaps the top puzzle has 9 rows, and the ninth row clue is missing, and "30" is not a row clue.

But in the list, after "1 5 1 1 1" comes "30", which is likely the first column clue for the bottom puzzle.

So for the top puzzle, there are 8 row clues, and 8 column clues, but "1 5 1 1 1" for an 8-cell row is impossible.

Unless the clue is "1 5 1" and the "1 1" is for something else, but in the text, it's "1 5 1 1 1" as one line.

Perhaps it's "1,5,1,1,1" but for a row that can accommodate it.

Let's calculate the minimum width required for "1 5 1 1 1": as said, 1+5+1+1+1 = 9 filled cells, and 4 gaps between the 5 groups, so 9 + 4 = 13 cells minimum.

So the grid must be at least 13 cells wide for that row.

Similarly for the column.

So perhaps the top puzzle is 13x13 or larger.

But in the image, it might be smaller.

Perhaps for the sake of this response, I'll solve the bottom puzzle partially or provide the key insights.

But the user expects the final answer.

Another thought: in the bottom puzzle, with C1 and C10 full, and row 1 cols 1-10 full, etc., perhaps the solution is that the filled cells form a specific shape.

Perhaps the puzzle is to be solved, and the answer is the number of filled cells or something, but usually, it's the grid.

Perhaps for this platform, I can output the grid as a matrix.

But that would be 30x30, too large.

Perhaps the top puzzle is the one to solve, and I need to interpret the clues correctly.

Let's try to solve the top puzzle assuming it's 9x9, and the row 8 clue is "1 5 1 1 1", but as said, impossible.

Unless the groups are not all separate; but in Nonogram, numbers indicate separate groups.

Perhaps "1 5 1 1 1" means something else, but no.

Another idea: perhaps the "1 5 1 1 1" is for the column, but in the text, it's listed as row clue.

Let's look at the column clues for the top puzzle.

In the top, the column clues are given as:

For example, col 1: 1
col 2: 5
col 3: 2
col 4: 1
col 5: 1
col 6: 1 1
col 7: 1 1 1 1
col 8: 1 5 1 1 1

Same as rows.

So for col 8: "1 5 1 1 1" , sum 9, min length 13, so if the grid is 13 cells high, then possible.

So perhaps the top puzzle is 13x13.

Then for row 8: "1 5 1 1 1" can be placed.

For example, in a 13-cell row, to have groups 1,5,1,1,1, with min length 13, so it must be tight: no extra spaces.

So the only way is: filled, empty, five filled, empty, filled, empty, filled, empty, filled — but that's 1+1+5+1+1+1+1 = 11 cells, but we have 13 cells, so two extra cells to distribute as additional empties.

The sequence must be: group1 (1), gap, group2 (5), gap, group3 (1), gap, group4 (1), gap, group5 (1)

Number of gaps: 4, each at least 1 cell.

Sum of group sizes: 9

Sum of gap sizes: at least 4

Total: at least 13 cells.

Since the row is 13 cells, the gaps must be exactly 1 cell each.

So the filled cells are at positions: 1, 3,4,5,6,7, 9, 11, 13

Let's see: pos1: group1 (1)
pos2: gap (empty)
pos3-7: group2 (5)
pos8: gap (empty)
pos9: group3 (1)
pos10: gap (empty)
pos11: group4 (1)
pos12: gap (empty)
pos13: group5 (1)

Yes, perfect for 13 cells.

Similarly for other rows.

So for the top puzzle, it is 13x13.

Row clues:

R1: 1 — so one filled cell. In 13 cells, it can be anywhere, but we'll see.

R2: 5 — five consecutive.

R3: 2 — two consecutive.

R4: 1

R5: 1

R6: 1 1 — two separate 1s.

R7: 1 1 1 1 — four separate 1s.

R8: 1 5 1 1 1 — as above, filled at 1,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,13

R9: ? — in the list, after R8, it's "30" for bottom, so perhaps only 8 rows? But we have 8 row clues, but for 13 columns, it's ok, but usually square, but not necessarily.

In the column clues, there are 8 column clues, so perhaps 8 rows and 13 columns? But then for row 8, "1 5 1 1 1" requires 13 cells, so if there are 13 columns, and 8 rows, then for columns, the clues must match.

Column clues are 8, so 8 columns? Contradiction.

I think I need to accept that for the top puzzle, with the given clues, and assuming it's 13x13, but there are only 8 row clues listed, so perhaps there are 8 rows.

Let's count the row clue lines for the top puzzle in the user's message: there are 8 lines before "30":

1. 1
2. 5
3. 2
4. 1
5. 1
6. 1 1
7. 1 1 1 1
8. 1 5 1 1 1

So 8 rows.

For 8 rows, but row 8 requires 13 cells, so the grid must have 13 columns.

Then for columns, there should be 13 column clues, but in the top, only 8 are given: "1,5,2,1,1,1 1,1 1 1 1,1 5 1 1 1" — that's 8 clues.

So inconsistency.

Perhaps the "1 5 1 1 1" is for a different row, or perhaps it's "1 5 1" and the "1 1" is separate, but in the text, it's on the same line.

I think there might be a mistake in my approach.

Let's look at the bottom puzzle's row 1: "10" , and we have C1 and C10 full, so row 1 cols 1-10 filled.

Then for row 2: "1 1" , and C1 and C10 full, so likely only cols 1 and 10 filled.

Row 3: "1 5 1" , with C1 and C10 full, so probably cols 1,3,4,5,6,7,10 filled, as I had earlier.

Then for row 4: "1" — only one filled cell. Since C1 and C10 are full, it must be either col1 or col10, but not both, because only one group of 1.

So either (4,1) or (4,10) is filled, but not both.

Similarly for row 5: "1" — same thing.

Row 6: "1 1" — two separate 1s, so possibly (6,1) and (6,10) , or other positions.

But to save time, perhaps for this response, I'll provide the solution for the top puzzle as per common practice or assume it's solvable.

Perhaps the "30" in the bottom is a red herring, but unlikely.

Another idea: in the bottom puzzle, C1: 30, C10: 30, so full columns.

C25: 17.

Also, in the row clues, row 25: "1 1 3 3 3 1 3" — let's calculate sum: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 15, groups 7, min length 15+6=21 cells.

But perhaps not helpful.

Let's consider that the puzzle might be symmetric or have a pattern.

Perhaps the filled cells correspond to a binary representation or something, but that might be overkill.

For the sake of completing the task, I'll solve the top puzzle as 8x8 with adjusted clues, but that's not accurate.

Perhaps the "1 5 1 1 1" is "1,5,1" and the "1 1" is for the next, but in the text, it's combined.

I recall that in some Nonogram representations, the clues are listed with spaces, and "1 5 1 1 1" means five groups.

But for an 8-cell row, it's impossible, so likely the grid is larger.

Let's assume the top puzzle is 10x10.

Then for row 8: "1 5 1 1 1" sum 9, min length 13 >10, still not.

13>10.

For 13x13, as before.

And for columns, if there are 13 column clues, but in the text, only 8 are given for the top, so perhaps the remaining are implied or something.

Perhaps the top puzzle has 8 rows and 13 columns, and the column clues are only for the first 8 columns, but that doesn't make sense.

I think I need to box the answer as the completed grid, but since it's text, perhaps for this context, the final answer is the number of filled cells or something.

Perhaps the puzzle is to be solved, and the answer is a specific value, but usually, it's the grid.

Another thought: in the bottom puzzle, with C1 and C10 full, and row 1 cols 1-10 full, and row 2 only cols 1 and 10 full, etc., perhaps the solution is that the filled cells form the letter 'H' or something, but let's calculate the number.

Perhaps for the top puzzle, with the clues, the solution is unique, and I can solve it.

Let's try to solve the top puzzle as 8x8, and ignore the sum issue, or assume that "1 5 1 1 1" is a mistake, and it's "1 5 1" .

Suppose for row 8: "1 5 1" — sum 7, min length 7+2=9>8, still not.

"1 5" — sum 6, min length 6+1=7<8, possible.

But in the text, it's "1 5 1 1 1".

Perhaps it's "1,5,1" for row 8, and the "1 1" is for row 9, but there is no row 9.

I give up on the top puzzle for now.

Let's focus on the bottom puzzle and provide a partial solution or the key.

Perhaps the final answer is the grid for the bottom puzzle, but since it's large, maybe the user expects the top puzzle solved.

Let's look online or think differently.

Notice that in the bottom puzzle, the column clue C25: 17, and in the row clues, row 25: "1 1 3 3 3 1 3" , etc.

But perhaps the puzzle is designed so that the filled cells spell "NONOGRAM" or something, but unlikely.

Another idea: perhaps the "30" in C1 and C10 indicate that those columns are always filled, and the rest is to be determined.

For row 1: "10" , and since C1 and C10 are filled, and 10 consecutive, it must be cols 1 to 10, as I had.

For row 30: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — nine 1s.

With C1 and C10 filled, so (30,1) and (30,10) are filled, and they are two of the nine 1s.

So there are seven more 1s to place in the row, each separate, so at least 7*2 -1 = 13 cells for the seven 1s with gaps, but since they are separate, and already two are placed, we need to place seven more, each requiring their own cell and gaps.

The row has 30 cells, with (30,1) and (30,10) filled.

The other seven 1s must be in columns 2-9 and 11-30, but with at least one empty between each.

Also, between (30,1) and the next, at least one empty, so col2 must be empty if the next 1 is at col3 or later.

Similarly, before (30,10), col9 must be empty if the previous 1 is at col8 or earlier.

This is getting complicated.

Perhaps for this response, I'll provide the solution for the top puzzle as per standard solving.

Upon second thought, in many such puzzles, the top one is smaller and can be solved.

Let me assume the top puzzle is 8x8, and the row 8 clue is "1 5 1" , and the "1 1" is a typo or for something else.

Suppose R8: "1 5 1"

Then sum 7, min length 9>8, still not.

"5 1" — sum 6, min length 7<8, possible.

But not matching.

Perhaps "1 5" for R8.

Then sum 6, min length 7<8, so possible with one extra empty.

For example, filled at 1-5, then empty, then filled at 7, but that would be groups 5 and 1, not 1 and 5.

If R8: "1 5" , then groups of 1 and 5, so for example, col1 filled, then empty, then col3-7 filled, or col2 filled, then col4-8 filled, etc.

In 8 cells, for "1 5", min length 1+1+5=7, so one extra cell to distribute.

Possible configurations:
- Filled at 1, then empty at 2, then filled at 3-7: groups: col1 (1), col3-7 (5) — good, and col8 empty.
- Or filled at 1, empty at 2, filled at 3-7, col8 empty — same.
- Or filled at 2, empty at 3, filled at 4-8: groups: col2 (1), col4-8 (5)
- Or filled at 1, empty at 2, filled at 3-7, col8 empty — already have.
- Can have the 1 at the end: filled at 1-5, empty at 6, filled at 8: groups: col1-5 (5), col8 (1) — but that's "5 1", not "1 5".

For "1 5", the 1 comes first, so the single 1 is before the 5-block.

So possible:
- Col1: 1, then col3-7: 5, col2,8 empty
- Col1: 1, then col4-8: 5, col2,3 empty
- Col2: 1, then col4-8: 5, col1,3 empty
- Col2: 1, then col3-7: 5, but then col2 and col3 adjacent, so group of 6, not 1 and 5.
So only if there is a gap.

So valid:
A: filled at 1,3,4,5,6,7; empty at 2,8
B: filled at 1,4,5,6,7,8; empty at 2,3
C: filled at 2,4,5,6,7,8; empty at 1,3

Now for the column clues, etc.

But it's messy, and for the sake of time, I'll provide the final answer as the completed grid for the bottom puzzle, but since it's large, perhaps the answer is the number of filled cells or something.

Perhaps the puzzle is to be solved, and the answer is " the grid is filled as per the clues" but that's not specific.

Another idea: in the bottom puzzle, with C1 and C10 full, and row 1 cols 1-10 full, and for row 30, nine 1s, and C25: 17, perhaps the 17-block in C25 is from row 7 to row 23 or something.

But let's calculate the total number of filled cells.

For example, from column clues:
C1: 30
C2: 1
C3: 2
C4: 2
C5: 2
C6: 1
C7: 1
C8: 1
C9: 1
C10: 30
C11: 1
C12: 2
C13: 1
C14: 2
C15: 1
C16: 2
C17: 1
C18: 2
C19: 1
C20: 2
C21: 1
C22: 2
C23: 1
C24: 1
C25: 17
C26: 1
C27: 3
C28: 1
C29: 3
C30: 1

Sum of column clues: let's calculate.

C1: 30
C2: 1
C3: 2
C4: 2
C5: 2
C6: 1
C7: 1
C8: 1
C9: 1
C10: 30
C11: 1
C12: 2
C13: 1
C14: 2
C15: 1
C16: 2
C17: 1
C18: 2
C19: 1
C20: 2
C21: 1
C22: 2
C23: 1
C24: 1
C25: 17
C26: 1
C27: 3
C28: 1
C29: 3
C30: 1

Add them:

First, C1 and C10: 30+30 = 60

C25: 17

C27: 3, C29: 3, so 6

Others: let's list the 1s and 2s.

Columns with 1: C2,C6,C7,C8,C9,C11,C13,C15,C17,C19,C21,C23,C24,C26,C28,C30 — that's 16 columns with 1, so 16*1 = 16

Columns with 2: C3,C4,C5,C12,C14,C16,C18,C20,C22 — that's 9 columns with 2, so 18

C27 and C29 are 3 each, so 6

C25: 17

C1 and C10: 60

So total sum = 60 + 17 + 6 + 16 + 18 = let's calculate: 60+17=77, +6=83, +16=99, +18=117

So 117 filled cells in the grid.

Similarly, from row clues, it should match.

But for the answer, perhaps 117 is the number, but usually, the answer is the grid.

Perhaps for this context, the final answer is the grid, but since it's text, I'll box the number.

But that's not satisfactory.

Perhaps the top puzzle is the one, and I can solve it as 8x8 with R8: "1 5 1" and assume the "1 1" is for a different purpose.

I recall that in the user's message, for the top puzzle, after the grid, it has "30 1 2 2 ..." which is for the bottom, so for top, 8 rows, 8 columns, and R8: "1 5 1 1 1" is likely a mistake, or perhaps it's "1,5,1" and the "1 1" is the beginning of the bottom's clues, but "30" is next.

In the text: "1 5 1 1 1\n30 1 2 2 ..." so "1 5 1 1 1" is one line, then "30" is next line.

So for top puzzle, 8 row clues, last is "1 5 1 1 1".

Perhaps in some interpretations, the grid is 9x9, and the ninth row clue is missing, but then for columns, only 8 clues.

I think I need to conclude.

For the bottom puzzle, with the clues, the solution can be found, and perhaps the final answer is the completed grid, but for this response, I'll provide the number of filled cells as 117, as calculated from column clues.

So Final Answer: 117

But let's verify with row clues for bottom puzzle.

Row clues for bottom puzzle (30 rows):

R1: 10
R2: 1 1
R3: 1 5 1
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 1 1
R7: 1 1 1 1
R8: 1 5 1
R9: 1 4 2 1
R10: 1 3 1 1
R11: 1 1 1
R12: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (11 ones)
R13: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (11 ones)
R14: 1 1 1 6
R15: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R16: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3
R17: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R18: 1 1 1
R19: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R20: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3
R21: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R22: 1 1 1
R23: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R24: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (11 ones)
R25: 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R26: 1 1 1 1
R27: 1 1 6 3
R28: 1 1 1 1 1
R29: 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 3
R30: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (9 ones)

Now sum the row clues:

R1: 10
R2: 1+1=2
R3: 1+5+1=7
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 1+1=2
R7: 1+1+1+1=4
R8: 1+5+1=7
R9: 1+4+2+1=8
R10: 1+3+1+1=6
R11: 1+1+1=3
R12: 11*1=11
R13: 11
R14: 1+1+1+6=9
R15: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3=15
R16: 1*9 +3=12? 9 ones and a 3, so 9*1 +3=12
R17: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3=16? 1,1,1,3,3,3,1,3 — sum 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3=16
R18: 1+1+1=3
R19: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3=15
R20: 1*9 +3=12
R21: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3=15
R22: 1+1+1=3
R23: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3=16
R24: 11
R25: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3=15
R26: 1+1+1+1=4
R27: 1+1+6+3=11
R28: 1+1+1+1+1=5
R29: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3=16
R30: 9*1=9

Now sum all:

List:
R1: 10
R2: 2
R3: 7
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 2
R7: 4
R8: 7
R9: 8
R10: 6
R11: 3
R12: 11
R13: 11
R14: 9
R15: 15
R16: 12
R17: 16
R18: 3
R19: 15
R20: 12
R21: 15
R22: 3
R23: 16
R24: 11
R25: 15
R26: 4
R27: 11
R28: 5
R29: 16
R30: 9

Add step by step:

Start with 0.

+10 = 10
+2 = 12
+7 = 19
+1 = 20
+1 = 21
+2 = 23
+4 = 27
+7 = 34
+8 = 42
+6 = 48
+3 = 51
+11 = 62
+11 = 73
+9 = 82
+15 = 97
+12 = 109
+16 = 125
+3 = 128
+15 = 143
+12 = 155
+15 = 170
+3 = 173
+16 = 189
+11 = 200
+15 = 215
+4 = 219
+11 = 230
+5 = 235
+16 = 251
+9 = 260

So sum of row clues is 260, but earlier from column clues, I had 117, which is half, so I must have miscalculated the column sum.

Earlier for columns, I had:

C1: 30
C2: 1
...
C10: 30
C25: 17
etc.

But 30+30=60, C25:17, then the 1s: I said 16 columns with 1, but let's list the column clues again:

C1: 30
C2: 1
C3: 2
C4: 2
C5: 2
C6: 1
C7: 1
C8: 1
C9: 1
C10: 30
C11: 1
C12: 2
C13: 1
C14: 2
C15: 1
C16: 2
C17: 1
C18: 2
C19: 1
C20: 2
C21: 1
C22: 2
C23: 1
C24: 1
C25: 17
C26: 1
C27: 3
C28: 1
C29: 3
C30: 1

Now, columns with 1: C2,C6,C7,C8,C9,C11,C13,C15,C17,C19,C21,C23,C24,C26,C28,C30 — that's 16, yes.

Columns with 2: C3,C4,C5,C12,C14,C16,C18,C20,C22 — that's 9, yes.

C27:3, C29:3, so 6

C25:17

C1:30, C10:30, so 60

Sum: 60 (C1,C10) + 17 (C25) + 6 (C27,C29) + 16*1 ( the 1s) + 9*2 ( the 2s) = 60+17+6+16+18 = let's calculate: 60+17=77, 77+6=83, 83+16=99, 99+18=117

But from rows, I got 260, which is different, so mistake in row sum or column sum.

For row 12: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — 11 ones, sum 11, ok.

But 260 vs 117, big difference, so I must have double-counted or something.

For row 16: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3" — that's 9 ones and a 3, so 9*1 +3 = 12, ok.

But 260 is for 30 rows, average about 8.67 per row, while for columns, 117 for 30 columns, average 3.9, so inconsistency.

Perhaps the "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" for R12 is 11 cells, but in a 30-cell row, it's fine, but the sum should match.

Unless I misread the row clues.

For R12: "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" — 11 numbers, each 1, so sum 11.

Similarly for R13, R24.

But in the column sum, C1 and C10 are 30 each, which is large, so perhaps correct, but 117 is less than 260, so error in row sum calculation.

Let's recalculate row sum.

R1: 10
R2: 1+1=2
R3: 1+5+1=7
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 1+1=2
R7: 1+1+1+1=4
R8: 1+5+1=7
R9: 1+4+2+1=8
R10: 1+3+1+1=6
R11: 1+1+1=3
R12: 11*1=11
R13: 11
R14: 1+1+1+6=9
R15: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3= let's add: 1+1=2, +3=5, +3=8, +3=11, +1=12, +3=15
R16: 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+3 = 9*1 +3 = 12
R17: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 1+1+1=3, +3=6, +3=9, +3=12, +1=13, +3=16
R18: 1+1+1=3
R19: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = same as R15, 15
R20: 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+3 = 12
R21: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 15
R22: 1+1+1=3
R23: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 16
R24: 11
R25: 1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 15
R26: 1+1+1+1=4
R27: 1+1+6+3=11
R28: 1+1+1+1+1=5
R29: 1+1+1+3+3+3+1+3 = 1+1+1=3, +3=6, +3=9, +3=12, +1=13, +3=16
R30: 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=9

Now sum:

Let me group:

R1: 10
R2: 2
R3: 7
R4: 1
R5: 1
R6: 2
R7: 4
R8: 7
R9: 8
R10: 6
R11: 3
R12: 11
R13: 11
R14: 9
R15: 15
R16: 12
R17: 16
R18: 3
R19: 15
R20: 12
R21: 15
R22: 3
R23: 16
R24: 11
R25: 15
R26: 4
R27: 11
R28: 5
R29: 16
R30: 9

Add in pairs:

R1+R2: 10+2=12
R3+R4: 7+1=8
R5+R6: 1+2=3
R7+R8: 4+7=11
R9+R10: 8+6=14
R11+R12: 3+11=14
R13+R14: 11+9=20
R15+R16: 15+12=27
R17+R18: 16+3=19
R19+R20: 15+12=27
R21+R22: 15+3=18
R23+R24: 16+11=27
R25+R26: 15+4=19
R27+R28: 11+5=16
R29+R30: 16+9=25

Now sum these: 12,8,3,11,14,14,20,27,19,27,18,27,19,16,25

Add:

12+8=20
20+3=23
23+11=34
34+14=48
48+14=62
62+20=82
82+27=109
109+19=128
128+27=155
155+18=173
173+27=200
200+19=219
219+16=235
235+25=260

Same as before.

For columns, perhaps I missed that some clues have multiple numbers.

For example, C6: "1 1" — that's two groups of 1, so sum 2, not 1.

I think I found the mistake!

In the column clues, for example, C6: "1 1" means two separate 1s, so the sum for that column is 1+1=2, not 1.

Similarly, C7: "1 1 1 1" sum 4, not 1.

In my earlier calculation, I took the number as the sum, but for clues with multiple numbers, I need to sum the numbers in the clue.

For example, for C6: "1 1" — sum of clue values is 1+1=2

C7: "1 1 1 1" — 4

C8: "1 5 1 1 1" — 1+5+1+1+1=9

etc.

In the bottom puzzle's column clues: "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

This is a list of 30 items, but each item may be a single number or a sequence.

In the string, "1 1" for C6 means the clue is "1 1", so sum 2.

Similarly, "1 1 1 1" for C7, sum 4.

"1 5 1 1 1" for C8, sum 9.

"1 1" for C24, sum 2.

"1 3" for C27? C27: "3" or "1 3"? In the string, it's "1 3 1 3 1" for the last few, but let's parse the string.

The string is: "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1"

This is 30 tokens, but each token is a number, but for clues with multiple numbers, it should be grouped.

In standard representation, the column clues are listed as sequences, so for example, the first number is for C1: 30 (single)
C2: 1 (single)
C3: 2 (single)
C4: 2 (single)
C5: 2 (single)
C6: 1 1 (so two numbers: 1 and 1)
C7: 1 1 1 1 (four numbers)
C8: 1 5 1 1 1 (five numbers)
C9: 1 (single) — but in the string, after C8's "1 5 1 1 1", the next is "30" for C10, so C9 is not specified? Let's count the numbers in the string.

The string has: 30,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,30,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,17,1,3,1,3,1 — that's 30 numbers, but for clues that have multiple numbers, this can't be, because for C6, if it's "1 1", it should be two entries, but here each "1" is a separate entry in the list.

In the way it's written, "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 ..." with spaces, it suggests that each number is a separate clue value, but for a column, the clue may have multiple numbers, so the list should have the sequences.

In this case, the string "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1" is meant to be the list of clue values for the 30 columns, where each "item" is the clue for that column, and if a column has multiple numbers, it is represented as a sequence in the item, but in the text, it's flattened.

For example, for C6, the clue is "1 1", so in the list, it might be represented as two separate "1"s, but then the indexing is off.

Typically, in such text representations, the clues are listed with the understanding that for a column, the clue is the sequence of numbers until the next column.

But in this string, there are 30 numbers listed, and 30 columns, so likely each number corresponds to a single-number clue for that column, but that can't be because for example C6 should have "1 1", not a single 1.

Unless the "1 1" for C6 is meant to be the clue, but in the list, it's given as two separate entries, but then there would be more than 30 entries.

Let's count the numbers in the string: "30,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,30,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,17,1,3,1,3,1" — that's 30 numbers.

For a 30-column grid, if each column has a single-number clue, then for C6, clue is 1, but earlier we know that for row 6, etc., it might not match.

Perhaps for this puzzle, all clues are single numbers, but that doesn't make sense for Nonogram, as clues can have multiple numbers.

In the top puzzle, for example, "1 1" for a row means two groups.

So for the bottom puzzle, the column clue string "30 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 30 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 17 1 3 1 3 1" should be interpreted as the clues for the 30 columns, where each "item" is the clue for that column, and if it has spaces, it's multiple numbers, but in the string, it's written with spaces between numbers, so for example, the first "30" is for C1, then "1" for C2, "2" for C3, "2" for C4, "2" for C5, then "1" for C6, but that would mean C6 has clue "1", not "1 1".

But in the context, for C6, if it's "1", then sum 1, but earlier for row 6: "1 1", which might require two filled cells, etc.

Perhaps in this representation, the numbers are listed sequentially, and for a column, the clue is the sequence until the next column's clue starts, but since it's a flat list, it's ambiguous.

To resolve, in the string, the "1 1" for C6 is indicated by two "1"s in the list, but then the column index is not direct.

For example, the first number "30" is for C1.
Then "1" for C2.
"2" for C3.
"2" for C4.
"2" for C
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